18 Replies to “அதிகாரப் போட்டியின் நடுவே விக்ரம் – வேதா”

1. சாக்கடையை பற்றி எழுதி ஒரு பக்கத்தை வீணத்து விட்டீர்கள். இந்த பதிவை உடனே நீக்க வேண்டும் என அன்புடன் கேட்டுக் கொள்கிறேன்.

2. What is happening in Tamil Nadu is utter disgrace to Tamils…So called Tamil Politicians who claim about self respect etc. But in actual practice care for nothing other than their selfish interests. It is a shame that DK, DMK, AIADMK, MDMK and all other “Ks” have reduced this state to their personal kingdom to perpetuate their vested interests. Pity is our Prime Minister has appointed Smt. Kiran Bedi as Governor for Pondichery and she is doing great service to the Union Territory. In AP and Telengana we have Sri Narasimhan who has been steering both the sates so nicely despite so much happening over there. Even in appointment of a Governor Tamil Nadu is totally neglected. We are dependent on Governor from Maharashtra for crucial decisions. It is high time a good reliable leader is chosen by the Prime Minister and sent to Tamil Nadu. If need be the assembly is dissolved and fresh election is called for to set things in order !

3. The writer’s partiality towards BJP is amusing. Modi does not want to split the AIADMK? Really?. Maybe, but he definitely wants to weaken the party.

   It is the BJP which is indirectly running the govt in T.N. A major state like TN does not have a full fledged governor for the last 1.5 years, is it not shameful?

   What about the methyl gas extraction in Kadirmangalam? The archaeological excavation which has been stopped? Setting up the Cauvery river water tribunal? Arrests of TN fishermen by Srilanka?

   The BJP is becoming more & more unpopular in TN by such antics. It is high time Modi realized that he is the prime minister of India & not just the northern part of India.

   The BJP can never ever dream of coming to the power in TN, for sure.

4. //இந்தப் பதிலால் சமாதானம் அடையாத வேதா, “நீ உன் விருப்பத்தைக் கூறுகிறாய். ஆனால், நாளை நடக்கப் போவதை யார் அறிவார்?” என்று கூறியவாறே மீண்டும் அவனது தோளிலிருந்து விடுபட்டு, மற்றொரு முருங்கை மரத்தைத் தேடிப் பறந்துவிட்டது.//

   A good lesson to the author of this article. Don’t count your chicken before they’re hatched.

   Everyone knows that BJP is pretending to be aloof from the internal bickering for Jeyalalitha’s legacy but is behind the scenes. Now in front too. OPS openly said he discussed AIADMK issues only with PM. Why should a PM call a leader, who is not even an opposition leader in the State, to discuss party politics of TN where the State leader has a huge personal stake? It is quite clear to all that BJP wants the ruling party to continue and complete the tenure so that DMK can be kept at bay till next elections. This’s because TN BJP is so weak that it cannot win anything outside a few pockets which it has been carefully cultivating by various means, fair or foul. No power in sight, – all alone at sea, without the shore in sight – so the author, as the spokesman for BJP or representing the wishes of the BJP, says that the one and only agenda right now is to keep DMK from getting into power.

   But how long will you be saying this? All parties, including the BJP with its weak strength – remember the BJP State Chief and its national secretary H Raja were soundly defeated in Chennai city MLA constituencies! – all parties are going to polls in two years and therefore, the Veda is correct to question: ஆனால், நாளை நடக்கப் போவதை யார் அறிவார்?”

   State BJP is like IPKF – fighting with hands tied at back. It has no ideas or agenda of its own. Its leaders are routinely parroting the language of their national leaders and retweeting them. Their charisma doesn’t even extend to the neighboring house. There’s right now a clear contempt for the party and, we may say, the other parties excluding AIADMK two factions, have successfully created the contempt. State BJP is now being perceived as a anti-Tamil language and anti-TN interests party. If, in the remaining years, the BJP does not correct its image and allow others to their day, it will be decimated in the next elections and a void will be created thanks to the weakening of AIADMK which, may be filled up by Stalin, if not who else?

5. \\ சம்ஸ்க்ருத உச்சரிப்புள்ள வார்த்தைகளை தமிழ்ப்படுத்திக் கூற மெனக்கெட்டதன் கஷ்டம் அதன் வாய் கோணலானதிலிருந்து தெரிந்தது. \\ அரசு மீது நம்பிக்கையில்லாத் தீர்மானம் கொண்டுவரப் போவதாக மு.க.சுடாலின் கூறியிருப்பதாகவும் தகவல். \\

   இசுடாலினார் அவர்களை சுடாலின் என்று தேவா…………..சீ……….சீ………..வேதா எப்போது கூறியதோ அப்போதே அதன் வாய் கோணிவிட்டது.

   \\ What about the methyl gas extraction in Kadirmangalam? \\

   மீத்தேனெடுப்புக்கு ஒப்புதல் அளித்தது யாரென்று டம்ப்ளர்கள் வேணுமானால் மறைக்கலாம். அல்லது தக்ஷிணாமூர்த்திகாரு வாள்ளு பேமிலி மறைக்கலாம். தமிழர்கள் வெவரமானவர்கள் அவுங்களுக்கெல்லாம் தெளிவாகத் தெரியும்.

   \\ Setting up the Cauvery river water tribunal? \\

   ஸூனியா கேண்டி காலத்தில் டிமுக்காஸ் என்னாத்த கிழிச்சாங்கோ. தக்ஷிணாமூர்த்தி காரு அரவாள்ளு ப்ரதேசத்திலே எத்தினி ஆறு, குளம் ஏரிய ஆட்டய போட்டாரு. மணல வாரி பாக்கெட்ட ரொப்பின்னரு. இதிலோ தக்ஷிணாமூர்த்தி காரு வாரிக்கி லாபம் உந்திகாதா. இதி டம்ப்ளருக்குத் தெரியாது. தமிழர்களுக்குத் தெளிவாகத் தெரியும்.

   \\ Arrests of TN fishermen by Srilanka? \\

   கச்சத்தீவை இந்திராகாந்திக்கு தாரே வார்த்து தக்ஷிணாமூர்த்திகாருக்கு எத்தினி டப்பு வச்சிந்தி? டம்ப்ளருக்கு வேணுமின்னா தெரியாம இருக்கலாம். தமிழர்களுக்கு நல்லாத் தெரியும்.

   டம்ப்ளரின் மூத்த தமிழ் முப்பாட்டி செயலலிதாவாகட்டும் டிமுக்காஸ் தக்ஷிணாமூர்த்தி காரு இருக்கட்டும். இவர்களுக்கு மீனவர்கள் தொடர்ந்து ப்ரச்சினையில் சிக்கி அதற்காக இவர்கள் காலில் விழுவதில் ………… அவர்களை அப்படியே வைத்திருப்பதில் அரசியல் லாபமுண்டு………..

   மீனவர்களுக்கு ஆழ்கடல் கனரக மீன்பிடிப்பு படகுகள் வழங்கப்பட்டால் எல்லைமீறி மீன் பிடிக்க அவச்யமிருக்காது என்பதனை நிரந்தரத்தீர்வாகக் கருதி அவர்களுக்கு நிதியுதவி அளிக்கும் மாண்பு…………. ப்ரச்சினையை முழுதுமாக தீர்க்க முனையும் மாண்பு மோதி சர்க்காருக்கு மட்டிலும் உண்டு.

   \\ The BJP is becoming more & more unpopular in TN by such antics \\

   OOoooops. thats only day dreaming of timukkaas sold out to racist white church and jihadists.

   BJP is becoming more and more popular amongst all the hindus of tamil nadu. slowly but steadily. Nobody ever thought that one day BJP would capture power in state like Assam on its own. People even discounted that. The more and more your friend stalin utter anti hindu jibes the more he would be exposed by his antics. And only an electoral defeat would sweetly or sourly teach him the lesson. Ofcourse, Alagiri is always there to pull the rugs from under his legs at the most opportune time. cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. Krishnakumar,

   Instead of giving answers to the issues posed, you have simply criticised karunanithi. If the BJP is really interested in the welfare of tamilnadu, why do they go ahead with the kadirmangalam project?

   It was the BJP which agreed to form the Cauvery river water committee & then somersaulted, with an eye on karnataka elections.

   In what way, are they different?

   TN fisherman get regularly captured by Srilanka. One fisherman was even shot dead, Was the high commissioner even called & questioned?

   BJP is becoming popular slowly in Tamilnadu. Really? In your dreams?

   Tell your local BJP leaders to win a councilor election first.

7. Sanjay

   In many of the tamil porali boys flashmob type get togethers, I do not have any belief. Kadiramangalam is one such issue.

   The water problems of tamizhagam does not start and end with cauvery. The dravidian nazis simply by hiding behind the hide and seek cauvery game have almost destroyed each and every waterbody of the state. Sure, cauvery would be a major source. But let the tamils first come out of the corrupt dravidian regime which is sold on wholesale to racist white church and jihadists. Cauvery would sure see the light of the day.

   semmaram, tamizhaga fishermen problem…… they have their own real pictures behind the sold out mafia media potrayals. When it comes to fishermen, modi sarkar is definitely taking steps which would start yielding results in the near future.

   there is no way you can compare the corrupt dynastic mafia called timukkas with hindutva.

8. //தமிழர்கள் வெவரமானவர்கள் அவுங்களுக்கெல்லாம் தெளிவாகத் தெரியும்.//

   very correct observation.

9. Sanjay

   Who was responsible for handing over Kachchatheevu to Srilanka by which tamil naadu fishermen getting arrested assaulted imprisoned and their boats seized. Modi ? or BJB ?

   Who agreed to accept nearly five hundred thousand ceylon tamils. Modi ? or BJB ? Dont say they are Indian origins. If you say so Buddha and their followers too should have been deported from srilanka to India.

10. Krishnakumar & Rishi,

    I repeat – simply blaming the DMK does not take us anywhere. I do not hold a torch for the DMK. But what are the steps taken to solve the fishermen’s issue?

    The BJP govt in its manifesto had stated that a separate fisheries department would be constituted to handle such issues. Is it done?

    On the cauvery water issue,even after the supreme court order of forming the cauvery river water authority board, the BJP govt did not do anything & instead argued that the court did not have the authority to issue such an order. How do you justify this?

    It is as clear as water that Modi is eyeing the state assy elections in Karnataka.

    When BJP was in opposition, they held congress responsible. Now what are they doing?

    Modi declared that 15 lakhs would be deposited on the account of every indian once the swiss bank dealings are unearthed.

    Have they released the list of at least one person who has accounts there?

    Is this not en eyewash?

    The BJP says that it is a party with a difference.

    Where is that difference?

11. Sanjay

    Modi never promised that he would deposit 15 lakhs into the accounts of people. Thats gross misinterpretation of his public speech. Thats the sole right of sold out presstitutes and you can only copy paste the misinterpreations of presstitutes in this regard.

    Swiss bank accounts et al……..that particular issue is directly under the supreme court monitored committee. Any further, development is possible when the committee and supreme court do the needful. Pull on the govt for it has to do and not done it. else it has simply sloganeering value and nothing more than that.

    BJP is a political party. Under the constitution of Hindustan, it has every right to come to power in karnataka and in tamilnadu. And yes, we expect certainly better result from the party.

    After all, after BJP came to power after ram janmabhumi andolan, the leftists simply written off that as one off event. and said they can never retain power. That has been disproved in Gujarat, MP, Chattisgarh. People said it is brahmin bania party. Leaving a couple of cms almost the entire line of top leaders in BJP are OBC and dalit leaders.

    There is commitment from BJP to do many things for the welfare of the country and its populace. The party is trying to do that in an environment of ecosystem filled by congress darbaris who very well plan every single negative campaign. BJP learns from these events and move ahead crossing the obstacles and better its outlook.

    Its not an out and out dynastic political grouping. It provides opportunities to people from every walk of life. But one has to prove his worth for that. from pt.shyam prasad mukherjee, deendayal upadhyay ji, Nanaji deshmukh, atalji, advani ji down to modi, shah…….thats the picture.

    Although some of the politicians of even this party may be accused of corruption, the overall effort and image of BJP is that of a non corruptible party. Ofcourse, one may accuse this that and all on BJP but either have not the guts to go to the courts to prove their case……..or worst gone to court like sahara diaries and came back with failure since the courts simply dismissed the case of least substance.

    differences between BJP and other daylight dynastic robbers working as political parties.

12. Krishnakumar,

    The swiss bank topic is mentioned in the BJP manifesto.

    FYI, the swiss bank issue is pending in court simply because when the court questioned the govt, arun jaitley appeared in court & replied that the swiss bank laws do not allow for the disclosure of the names.

    Yes, there is nothing wrong in a party trying to coming to power in a state, but at the cost of sacrificing another state’s interests?

    U can argue in many ways that the BJP is not a dynastic party like the congress, not as corrupt blah blah but what is the end result?

    What is your take on the vyapam scam?

    What is your take on the 80 people who died in an UP govt hospital due to lack of oxygen?

    What is your take on Yeduriappa who is involved in multiple corruption cases, being projected as a prospective CM candidate (again) by the BJP?

    Intentions may be noble but remember, the smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention.

    BJP is a party which promised much but delivered little.

13. ஹிந்து மத விரோதிகள் ஆட்சிக்கு வரக்கூடாது.அதற்கு என்ன வேண்டுமானாலும் செய்யலாம் .

14. Dear Dear Sanjay

    The basic basic difference between BJP and the daylight dynastic looters working as political parties is the basic commitment to serve the country. In the case of former the commitment to serve the country is pronounced. In the case of latter, loot at any cost is the rule.

    Well, when it comes to either swiss bank accounts or vyapam scam, they are sub judicious………… both being monitored under supreme court. Let the corrupt be punished to whichever party they belong to. simply by chanting so and so is corrupt does not take you anywhere. Other than Dr Subramanya Swamy, who tries to take each and every one of his case to its logical end……… could you suggest any one from the camps of daylight dynastic looters who work as political parties to have ever fought a single case on their own and obtained conviction on their own? Since their main commitment is nothing more than loot, their accusations have nothing more than sloganeering values unless and until they show guts worth the name to fight the cases in the courts of law. Mind you most of cases were fought by Dr Swamy against the ruling party in spite of swift resistance from them. What prevent the dynastic looters to take the same track?

    There is no doubt that deaths of 80 people at Gorakhpur is a big big disaster. And mind you this is a continuing disaster which happened in much higher scale in earlier governments. The difference is ………. even though earlier the number of deaths were more than this…….. there was not even a murmur. It is certainly not easy or simple that the rot of 70 odd years perpetrated by loot congress followed by casteist dynasties …….. could be repaired in a period of months. Without any hesitation, I would say this was a setback. And we expect better from yogi ji. But but we are very confident that he is committed …… honest…..and would deliver results.

    yeddiyurappa…….well you are well within your rights to indulge in sloganeering. Let him be punished by the courts of law if at all he was unlawful. Simply because you think that some one is or you accuse some one as corrupt……. he does not become one so. Nobody prevents anyone to fight cases in the courts of law to put yeddi into gallows if he has sufficient enough materials which warrant him to do so.

    And take it from the side of hindutva……they does not end up simply with sloganeering. Lalu, sasikala….(jeyalalita) and company could be sent to gallows because of the untiring efforts of people from hindutva camp. And the list expands to congi top brass Antonio maino aka sonia gandhi her son raul vinci aka rahul gandhi……….their blue eyed boy our one and only pasi manthri along with his son, the kith and kin of dakshinamurty garu ……. kanimozhi, a.raja et al. Well, at this juncture, I would be more than happy you write off accusations on them as sloganeering. behold, hindutva camp has built up strong cases against these looters. time will tell who stands where.

    Yes. BJP is much much different from dynastic daylight looters working as political parties.

    Narendrabhai, Amitbhai Shah, Ramnath Kovind, Venkaiah Naidu, Yogi, Shivraj Singh Chauhan, Raman Singh, Trivendrasingh Raut, Manoharlal khattar……does any of them came to power because of dynasty. Yes you may utter the name of vasundhara raje. your consolation prize…..huh.

    Not even an FIR is so far filed against Narendrabhai for any complaint. Amitbhai was hounded by dynasts with all their might but they could never prove anything against him in the courts of law. Best of luck for your men if they could change the national discourse, dear friend.

15. Ramesh,

    I agree with the first sentence, but not the second.

16. Krishnakumar,

    How many politicians have been convicted? SO, do not take this naïve argument in the yedurappa & Vyapam case.

    Again I am stressing that you only are making accusations on the previous govts. but have not been able to mention even one achievement of the BJP govt.

    The demonitisation scheme, for example. Modi promised that he would be addressing the nation on its benefits & outcome on Jan 1st 2017. Did he do that? We are in August’17 now.

    The poor & the middle classes are severely affected by demonitisation. Thousands of small scale industries have closed down. Lakhs of people in the unorganised sector have lost their jobs. Farmers’ suicides are on the rise.

    What is the BJP response to all this?

    Just Rhetoric will not take us anywhere.

    I agree it is tough do undo what has happned over the last 80 years, but my point is where are the efforts?

    You have a PM who is hardly in India & who hardly attends parliament. He is supposed to answer questions put by the opposition in the house, rather than in public meetings.

    He has time to meet actors & actresses but not tamil farmers who were protesting for more than 50 days in the capital.

    To say that only politicians like lallu, jaya etc., are corrupt is foolhardy. A BJP minister in Karnataka conducted a lavish wedding a few days after demonitisation. It was even attended by venkaiah Naidu & & other BJP leaders.

    Finally on the Gorakhpur deaths, it was due to lack of oxygen cylinders which shows utter govt apathy. Pls do not insult the feelings of the kith & kin of those who have did by trivialising the issue.

17. Sanjay

    Whether yeddiyurappa or vyapam…..I am not shielding or covering up anyone. In case of yeddiyurappa the cases are in the courts. Let him be punished if he is guilty. so to Shivraj and all his predecessors going back from diggy raja and backwards. let the guilty be punished. And till then enjoy your day with political sloganeering.

    poor and middle class are affected by demonitisation? how? Is there any content in this beyond political sloganeering? Yes…. effects of demonitisation… a white paper is needed on that. Industries are closed down for demonitisation? thats childish enough reason. nothing more than political sloganeering.

    PM is very well in the country most of the time and for building up relationships with countries he has to go to foreign countries. And thats almost at par with earlier pms. There is nothing more than political sloganeering in that. He regularly attend parliament and answers questions. There are clippings in loksabha as well as rajyasabha tv. get yourself updated. And politically he has to rebut lies / political sloganeering of opposition. He does that directly talking to the masses. Whats wrong in that?

    \\ He has time to meet actors & actresses but not tamil farmers who were protesting for more than 50 days in the capital. \\

    ha ha thats the most comic piece of your write up. Had you said that modi met First class actors but left out third class actors from tamil nadu like audi car ayyakannu and company enacting nirvana dramatics in the roads of delhi that would have been perfect. Agriculture is a state subject. have you ever questioned what our state government has done for agriculture. how many dams have been constructed since the times of kamaraj. The dyanstic daylight dravidian looters … what have they done worth the name for agriculture rather than big big bhashan? and dramatics. PM can certainly meet farmers. But, he should never meet richest person of tamilnadu audi car ayyakannu acting like a poor farmer left with nothing to eat but who enjoy royal meals in five star hotels of delhi and elsewhere.

    And sir, when Dr Swamy, an individual could fight big fishes like jayalalitha, a.raja, chidambaram and his son, antonio maino and raul vinci…… if someone feels that a politician from BJP camp is accused of something…… what prevents the like of kapil sibal, abhishek manu singhvi and the great great lawyer chidambaram to take up cases against corrupt BJP politicians ……. if and if at all they have materiaLs worth the name to fight a case beyond political sloganeering.

    \\ Pls do not insult the feelings of the kith & kin of those who have did by trivialising the issue. \\

    devuda….. can you quote any sentence verbatim from my reply where I have insulted the feelings of kith and kin of those who died in the gorakhpur incident. Thank god, sir this is not tv debate where you can put anything in the mouth of your opponent. Had I written anything in my replies which you allege, please quote what I said verbatim 🙂 Why dakshinamurti garu style content less yelling 🙂

18. Krishnakumar,

    you have chosen to get personal. Anyway, I will ignore that.

    Modi had the time to meet actress gautami (is she a world renowned actress? maybe for you)

    Wait, wait.. Now I get it. She has now become a member of the central film certificate board. Ok, ok.

    When the central govt writes off the loans for UP farmers, they do not know that it is a state subject. I get it.

    How many issues has Modi addressed in Parliament? Maybe you have unseen footage of the PM on Lok sabha TV. Pls share it with others also.

    That you do not even know the ill effects of demonetization on small scale industries, is a pity.

    “There is no doubt that deaths of 80 people at Gorakhpur is a big big disaster. And mind you this is a continuing disaster which happened in much higher scale in earlier governments. ”

    2 wrongs do make a right, my friend. I am talking about the reason for the gorakhpur deaths & U are comparing death under different regimes.

    Don’t trivialize the issue. I guess U watch many TV debates. 🙂

    FYI, Bangaru Laxman was caught on camera accepting bribe. Is he not from the BJP?

    In the vyapam case, there were close to 70 deaths & the Supreme Court even questioned the govt on that. MP is ruled by congress? Did not know.

    “BJP is becoming more and more popular amongst all the hindus of tamil nadu slowly but steadily.”

    BSV has answered in detail for this above quote of yours.

    If you say that all the cases are in courts, the by the same admission, the 2G scam, kalaignar TV cases etc., are also in the courts.

    So do not talk like a politician.

    We have enough already.

    Supporting Modi is ok, but your posts will put even a BJP chamcha to shame.